Wow, long informative post is long and informative!
I was thinking while we were talking about the mistyping of INTJ-INFJ that my problems with mental illness are probably fouling up both my perception of my cognitive process AND my cognitive process itself. So it's not a huge surprise that I'm confused.
I'm intrigued by the concept of tertiary loops. I went and did some more research about the symptoms of tertiary loops for both INTJ and INFJ, and hoooly shit the INTJ Ni-Fi loop pretty much describes my experience, and why I might not be presenting as a stereotypical INTJ. Whereas the Ni-Ti loop doesn't register for me at all. And the fact that this tertiary loop rings so true to me is really interesting because it also lends itself to strategies that I can use to get out of it, some of which I hadn't thought about in this way before, by focusing on Te.
[Edited to add: And all of this stuff about the cognitive functions actually explains me-as-an-INTJ much more than the stereotypical, horoscope-like descriptions of INTJ, which I always found a complete turn off. The description of Fi as having a strong sense of internal values that you try to align your behaviour and lives to is not often included in generic INTJ descriptions.]
Really really interesting, thank you for typing it all up and sharing!
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Date: Wednesday, 6 March 2019 01:26 am (UTC)I was thinking while we were talking about the mistyping of INTJ-INFJ that my problems with mental illness are probably fouling up both my perception of my cognitive process AND my cognitive process itself. So it's not a huge surprise that I'm confused.
I'm intrigued by the concept of tertiary loops. I went and did some more research about the symptoms of tertiary loops for both INTJ and INFJ, and hoooly shit the INTJ Ni-Fi loop pretty much describes my experience, and why I might not be presenting as a stereotypical INTJ. Whereas the Ni-Ti loop doesn't register for me at all. And the fact that this tertiary loop rings so true to me is really interesting because it also lends itself to strategies that I can use to get out of it, some of which I hadn't thought about in this way before, by focusing on Te.
[Edited to add: And all of this stuff about the cognitive functions actually explains me-as-an-INTJ much more than the stereotypical, horoscope-like descriptions of INTJ, which I always found a complete turn off. The description of Fi as having a strong sense of internal values that you try to align your behaviour and lives to is not often included in generic INTJ descriptions.]
Really really interesting, thank you for typing it all up and sharing!
[Edited AGAIN to add: There's a lot of different things out there about Ni-Ti loops, and not all of them ring true to me (i.e. conspiracy theorist?). But this one had me: https://www.psychologyjunkie.com/2017/06/21/intjs-loop-understanding-ni-fi-loop/]